Robert Thorpe (c1840 – 1924)

Another blog post in the series of people and families associated with my late father-in-law’s farm in Pilsley, Derbyshire. Robert was the younger brother of William Thorpe. Following William’s death Robert held land in trust for William’s widow Nancy and their daughters.

Robert Thorpe’s baptism took place at North Wingfield on the 2nd August 1840 in North Wingfield, Derbyshire, to parents William and Ann (née Wheatcroft) of Woodthorpe. William is working as a farmer.1

In the 1841 census, aged 10 months, he lives with his parents William & Ann in Woodthorpe near Clay Cross in Derbyshire. His father is a farmer. Robert has four siblings by this time; John, Mary, Ann and William Jnr.2 In 1851 Robert is 10 and a scholar. He lives with his parents at Stretton Hall, Woodthorpe. Also in the house are siblings John, Mary and Ann.3

Stretton House in 1999

In January 1860 Robert and his siblings lose their father. William Thorpe Snr is buried at North Wingfield church.4 By the 1861 census older brother William has moved back to the family farm and is working as a farmer of 152 acres employing one man and one boy. Robert lives with his mother Ann and siblings Ann and William, both single.5

Robert marries Elizabeth Elliott at Clay Cross on the 3rd June 1862. She is the daughter of Thomas, a miller.6 The couple baptise four children, George, William, Thomas and Mary Hannah before the 1871 census.7 In 1871 the family are living at Mill House, Mill Row, Clay Cross. They have three servants, two working on the farm and one domestic. Robert is a miller and farmer, working seventeen acres.8

Robert and Elizabeth baptise four more children over the next ten years, Elizabeth, Robert, Frederick and Christopher.9 The family are still at Mill House in the 1881 census, all eight children are living with them at home. Robert and his eldest two sons, George and William, are all working as corn millers.10

In 1884 eldest son George married Caroline Townsend and moved to Bishop Auckland where he worked as a physician.11

In the 1891 Census the family are still at Mill Lane, Robert is a farmer and Elizabeth, Robert, Frederick and Charles are still at home. Robert’s niece Fanny Taylor, is also in the household, but Elizabeth, Robert’s wife is not at home & I have been unable to find her elsewhere.12

Robert Jnr emigrates to Canada in 1892 and settles in Saskatchewan where he later marries Charlotte Hall.13 Mary Hannah Thorpe married John Steen, a bookkeeper in March 1893 and they remain in Clay Cross.14

Thomas Thorpe married Rhoda Jane Webster in September 1897, they lived in Chesterfield where Thomas worked in a grocer’s shop.15 In 1900 Elizabeth Thorpe married Thomas Finlay, a medical practitioner, and moved to Edinburgh.16

In the 1901 census Robert is living with three of his sons on Mill Lane; William, Frederick and Christopher. Elizabeth his wife is staying with her married daughter Elizabeth in Edinburgh.17

Junction of Clay Lane and Mill Lane, Clay Cross, Derbyshire

William, Robert’s brother, died in 1902 and his property, including the fields in Pilsley, is placed into trust with Robert and William’s brother-in-law, James Melrose.18

Robert’s wife Elizabeth died on the 20th July 1904 aged 61 and is buried in Clay Cross Cemetery.19

Christopher Thorpe married Amy Whiston in May 1905 and they emigrated to Canada, joining Robert Jnr in Saskatchewan.20 In 1910 William Thorpe married Kate Rowe in Warwick. They moved to Worksop where he worked as a hay dealer’s clerk.21

In the 1911 census Robert is working as a farmer and living on Clay Lane with his son Frederick and a domestic servant Mary Graves.22

Frederick Thorpe married Harriett Thompson in 1915 in Clay Cross, he worked as a fitter’s labourer.23

In 1920 Robert with James Melrose sell the fields they are holding in trust for William Jnr’s wife and children to The Pilsley Hand and Heart Industrial Society later to become the Co-Operative Society.24

Robert Thorpe died on the 10th May 1924 and is buried with his wife in Clay Cross cemetery. Probate was granted in August 1924 to Thomas Thorpe. Effects; £2167 5s 6d25



Sources

  1. Baptism; Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 1434 A/PI 5
  2. 1841 Census: Class: HO107; Piece: 196; Book: 17; Civil Parish: North Wingfield; County: Derbyshire; Enumeration District: 10; Folio: 3; Page: 1;
  3. 1851 Census: Class: HO107; Piece: 2147; Folio: 235; Page: 31; GSU roll: 87779-87780
  4. Burial: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 1434 A/PI 33
  5. 1861 Census: Class: RG 9; Piece: 2526; Folio: 39; Page: 31; GSU roll: 542984
  6. Marriage: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 660 A/PI 2/1
  7. Baptisms: George Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 1434 A/PI 6; William Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Thomas Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Mary Hannah Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby
  8. 1871 Census: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1871 England Census; Class: RG10; Piece: 3605; Folio: 50; Page: 29; GSU roll: 839779
  9. Baptisms; Elizabeth Ann Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Robert Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Derbyshire Church of England Parish Registers; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Frederick IGI 2080806 Item 7 Pg 96; Christopher IGI 2080806 Item & Pg 175
  10. 1881 Census: Class: RG11; Piece: 3428; Folio: 34; Page: 25; GSU roll: 1341820
  11. Marriage: Surrey History Centre; Woking, Surrey, England; Surrey Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: 2809/1/15
  12. 1891 Census: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1891; Class: RG12; Piece: 2757; Folio: 173; Page: 24; GSU roll: 6097867
  13. Emigration: Year: 1906; Census Place: 24, Humboldt, Saskatchewan; Page: 53; Family No: 34
  14. Marriage: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 660 A/PI 2/2
  15. Marriage: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby
  16. Marriage: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 660 A/PI 2/3
  17. 1901 Census: Class: RG13; Piece: 3243; Folio: 106; Page: 23
  18. Will: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
  19. Burial: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/185126200/elizabeth-thorpe
  20. Marriage: Derbyshire Record Office; Matlock, Derbyshire, England; Diocese: Diocese of Derby; Reference Number: D 660 A/PI 2/3
  21. Marriage: IGI 1520097 Item 4 Pg 214 No 428
  22. 1911 Census: The National Archives of the UK (TNA); Kew, Surrey, England; Census Returns of England and Wales, 1911
  23. Marriage: GRO Ref: 1915 June Q 7b 1854 Chesterfield
  24. Sale: Conveyancing Documents in Own Possession
  25. Death & Probate: GRO Ref; 1924 June Q 7b 688 Chesterfield.


© Caroline Cox and Caroline’s Chronicles. 2011 – current year

6 thoughts on “Robert Thorpe (c1840 – 1924)

  1. Very interesting – thank you – this is my husband’s Great Grandfather – his Grandfather was Robert Thorpe, who left England and came to Canada – he died by drowning in 1924 so there was not much known about his family in England.
    Any info is really appreciated.

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      1. Hi, thanks for that. I’ve removed your email from your reply as it’s public.
        I’ll email asap. No pictures of the family I’m afraid, I’m not related to them, we just have a connection through ownership of the farm.

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